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« The Monopolists | The best batsmen at each position »
January 9, 2008Posted by Anantha Narayanan on 01/09/2008 in
The one-position batsmen, and the drifters
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| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPTot | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Border A.R | ~ | Aus | 156 | 265 | 1245 | 4.7 | 0.98 | 89 @ | 4( 33.6) |
| Waugh S.R | Aus | 168 | 260 | 1410 | 5.42 | 0.74 | 142 @ | 5( 54.6) | |
| Stewart A.J | Eng | 133 | 235 | 842 | 3.58 | 1.97 | 77 @ | 1( 32.8) | |
| Lara B.C | ~ | Win | 131 | 232 | 876 | 3.78 | 0.52 | 148 @ | 4( 63.8) |
| Tendulkar S.R | Ind | 142 | 229 | 983 | 4.29 | 0.61 | 185 @ | 4( 80.8) | |
| Gooch G.A | Eng | 118 | 215 | 313 | 1.46 | 0.83 | 184 @ | 1( 85.6) | |
| Gavaskar S.M | Ind | 125 | 214 | 269 | 1.26 | 0.53 | 203 @ | 1( 94.9) | |
| Atherton M.A | Eng | 115 | 212 | 249 | 1.17 | 0.43 | 197 @ | 1( 92.9) | |
| Waugh M.E | Aus | 128 | 209 | 886 | 4.24 | 0.57 | 170 @ | 4( 81.3) | |
| Gower D.I | ~ | Eng | 117 | 204 | 812 | 3.98 | 0.72 | 91 @ | 4( 44.6) |
| Haynes D.L | Win | 116 | 202 | 209 | 1.03 | 0.03 | 201 @ | 1( 99.5) | |
| Inzamam-ul-Haq | Pak | 120 | 200 | 930 | 4.65 | 0.91 | 98 @ | 4( 49.0) | |
| Warne S.K | Aus | 145 | 199 | 1649 | 8.29 | 0.82 | 113 @ | 8( 56.8) | |
| Dravid R | Ind | 115 | 197 | 640 | 3.25 | 0.78 | 146 @ | 3( 74.1) | |
| Boycott G | Eng | 108 | 193 | 199 | 1.03 | 0.16 | 191 @ | 1( 99.0) | |
| Boon D.C | Aus | 107 | 190 | 478 | 2.52 | 1.05 | 111 @ | 3( 58.4) | |
| Kallis J.H | Saf | 111 | 189 | 712 | 3.77 | 0.62 | 91 @ | 4( 48.1) | |
| Javed Miandad | Pak | 124 | 189 | 798 | 4.22 | 0.57 | 140 @ | 4( 74.1) | |
| Cowdrey M.C | Eng | 114 | 188 | 684 | 3.64 | 1.33 | 54 @ | 5( 28.7) | |
| Jayasuriya S.T | ~ | Slk | 110 | 188 | 367 | 1.95 | 1.77 | 152 @ | 1( 80.9) |
| Taylor M.A | ~ | Aus | 104 | 186 | 186 | 1 | 0 | 186 @ | 1(100.0) |
| Ponting R.T | Aus | 112 | 186 | 751 | 4.04 | 1.34 | 121 @ | 3( 65.1) | |
| Walsh C.A | Win | 132 | 185 | 1965 | 10.62 | 0.65 | 122 @ | 11( 65.9) | |
| Richards I.V.A | Win | 121 | 182 | 758 | 4.16 | 1.07 | 63 @ | 5( 34.6) | |
| Sobers G.St.A | ~ | Win | 93 | 160 | 807 | 5.04 | 1.2 | 57 @ | 6( 35.6) |
| Bradman D.G | Aus | 52 | 80 | 292 | 3.65 | 1.24 | 56 @ | 3( 70.0) | |
| Jones A.H | Nzl | 39 | 74 | 223 | 3.01 | 0.11 | 70 @ | 3( 94.6) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Taylor M.A | ~ | Aus | 104 | 186 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 186 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Hayden M.L | ~ | Aus | 91 | 162 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 162 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Slater M.J | Aus | 74 | 131 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 131 @ | 1( 100.0) | |
| Lawry W.M | ~ | Aus | 67 | 123 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 123 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Strauss A.J | ~ | Eng | 43 | 81 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 81 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Hunte C.C | ~ | Win | 44 | 78 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 78 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Srikkanth K | Ind | 43 | 72 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 72 @ | 1( 100.0) | |
| Imran Farhat | ~ | Pak | 27 | 51 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 51 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chatfield E.J | Nzl | 43 | 54 | 10.96 | 0.06 | 52 @ | 11 ( 96.3) | |
| Chandrasekhar B.S | Ind | 58 | 82 | 10.93 | 0.16 | 75 @ | 11 ( 93.8) | |
| McGrath G.D | Aus | 124 | 138 | 10.92 | 0.21 | 128 @ | 11 ( 92.8) | |
| Valentine A.L | Win | 36 | 51 | 10.90 | 0.14 | 46 @ | 11 ( 90.2) | |
| Malcolm D.E | Eng | 40 | 58 | 10.84 | 0.32 | 49 @ | 11 ( 84.5) | |
| Danish Kaneria | Pak | 51 | 69 | 10.78 | 0.43 | 55 @ | 11 ( 79.7) | |
| Tufnell P.C.R | Eng | 42 | 59 | 10.75 | 0.48 | 44 @ | 11 ( 74.6) | |
| Alderman T.M | Aus | 41 | 53 | 10.62 | 0.76 | 42 @ | 11 ( 79.2) | |
| Walsh C.A | Win | 132 | 185 | 10.62 | 0.65 | 122 @ | 11 ( 65.9) | |
| Willis R.G.D | Eng | 90 | 128 | 10.61 | 0.54 | 78 @ | 11 ( 60.9) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Taylor M.A | ~ | Aus | 104 | 186 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 186 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Hayden M.L | ~ | Aus | 91 | 162 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 162 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Slater M.J | Aus | 74 | 131 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 131 @ | 1( 100.0) | |
| Lawry W.M | ~ | Aus | 67 | 123 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 123 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Strauss A.J | ~ | Eng | 43 | 81 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 81 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Hunte C.C | ~ | Win | 44 | 78 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 78 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Srikkanth K | Ind | 43 | 72 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 72 @ | 1( 100.0) | |
| Imran Farhat | ~ | Pak | 27 | 51 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 51 @ | 1( 100.0) |
| Chatfield E.J | Nzl | 43 | 54 | 10.96 | 0.06 | 52 @ | 11 ( 96.3) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jayawardene H.A.P.W | Slk | 17 | 19 | 7.00 | 0.00 | 19 @ | 7 ( 100.0) | |
| Hayward M | Saf | 16 | 17 | 11.00 | 0.00 | 17 @ | 11 ( 100.0) | |
| Aamer Nazir | Pak | 6 | 11 | 11.00 | 0.00 | 11 @ | 11 ( 100.0) | |
| Mohsin Kamal | Pak | 9 | 11 | 11.00 | 0.00 | 11 @ | 11 ( 100.0) | |
| Renneberg D.A | Aus | 8 | 13 | 11.00 | 0.00 | 13 @ | 11 ( 100.0) | |
| Mpofu C.B | Zim | 6 | 12 | 11.00 | 0.00 | 12 @ | 11 ( 100.0) | |
| Owens M.B | Nzl | 8 | 12 | 11.00 | 0.00 | 12 @ | 11 ( 100.0) |
| Patterson B.P | Win | 28 | 38 | 10.97 | 0.03 | 37 @ | 11 ( 97.4) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rhodes W | Eng | 58 | 98 | 5.06 | 3.39 | 43 @ | 1 ( 43.9) | |
| Abid Ali S | Ind | 29 | 53 | 4.85 | 3.17 | 21 @ | 1 ( 39.6) | |
| Prabhakar M | Ind | 39 | 58 | 4.09 | 3.05 | 30 @ | 1 ( 51.7) | |
| Mongia N.R | Ind | 44 | 68 | 4.84 | 3.00 | 30 @ | 7 ( 44.1) | |
| Engineer F.M | Ind | 46 | 87 | 3.77 | 2.96 | 48 @ | 1 ( 55.2) | |
| Mankad M.H | Ind | 44 | 72 | 3.56 | 2.94 | 40 @ | 1 ( 55.6) | |
| Blackham J.M | Aus | 35 | 62 | 7.45 | 2.45 | 16 @ | 8 ( 25.8) | |
| de Villiers A.B | Saf | 32 | 58 | 3.17 | 2.30 | 34 @ | 1 ( 58.6) | |
| Macartney C.G | Aus | 35 | 55 | 4.07 | 2.23 | 28 @ | 3 ( 50.9) | |
| Grout A.T.W | Aus | 51 | 67 | 8.57 | 2.20 | 29 @ | 9 ( 43.3) | |
| Stewart A.J | Eng | 133 | 235 | 3.58 | 1.97 | 77 @ | 1 ( 32.8) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gavaskar S.M | Ind | 125 | 214 | 1.26 | 0.53 | 203 @ | 1 ( 94.9) | |
| Haynes D.L | Win | 116 | 202 | 1.03 | 0.03 | 201 @ | 1 ( 99.5) | |
| Atherton M.A | Eng | 115 | 212 | 1.17 | 0.43 | 197 @ | 1 ( 92.9) | |
| Boycott G | Eng | 108 | 193 | 1.03 | 0.16 | 191 @ | 1 ( 99.0) | |
| Taylor M.A | ~ | Aus | 104 | 186 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 186 @ | 1 ( 100.0) |
| Tendulkar S.R | Ind | 142 | 229 | 4.29 | 0.61 | 185 @ | 4 ( 80.8) | |
| Gooch G.A | Eng | 118 | 215 | 1.46 | 0.83 | 184 @ | 1 ( 85.6) | |
| Greenidge C.G | Win | 108 | 185 | 1.05 | 0.17 | 182 @ | 1 ( 98.4) | |
| Waugh M.E | Aus | 128 | 209 | 4.24 | 0.57 | 170 @ | 4 ( 81.3) | |
| Hayden M.L | ~ | Aus | 91 | 162 | 1.00 | 0.00 | 162 @ | 1 ( 100.0) |
| Jayasuriya S.T | ~ | Slk | 110 | 188 | 1.95 | 1.77 | 152 @ | 1 ( 80.9) |
| Batsman | L | Cty | Tests | Inns | BPIdx | MeanDev | Freq | Batpos (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dravid R | Ind | 115 | 197 | 3.25 | 0.78 | 146 @ | 3 ( 74.1) | |
| Waugh S.R | Aus | 168 | 260 | 5.42 | 0.74 | 142 @ | 5 ( 54.6) | |
| Botham I.T | Eng | 102 | 161 | 6.23 | 0.69 | 94 @ | 6 ( 58.4) | |
| Marsh R.W | ~ | Aus | 96 | 150 | 6.91 | 0.46 | 123 @ | 7 ( 82.0) |
| McGrath G.D | Aus | 124 | 138 | 10.92 | 0.21 | 128 @ | 11 ( 92.8) |
It would be interesting to see what the BPI numbers look like if instead of a simple average we weight each batting position by the numbers of runs scored in that position. The weighted BPI then compared with simple BPI would tell how prolific the batsman has been. For example, someone with 40 innings at #3 (1500 runs scored) and 20 at #6 (1000 runs scored) would have a simple BPI of 4.00 [(40x3+20x6)/60] and a weighted BPI of 4.20 [(1500x3+1000x6)/2500] thus indicating that the batsman, while playing more innings at #3, has been more prolific at #6.
Thus, while the simple BPI indicates where the team has wanted the batsman to bat, weighted BPI indicates where the batsman himself has been happier batting. And the ones with the greatest difference can justifiably blame the team management for their poor averages. :)
On a separate note, I disagree with skipping position #2. It creates a mathematical discontinuity!
Very good analysis. Just one suggestion:
Perhaps positions 1 and 2 should should be assigned the value of 1.5 because a difference of 2 between opening and no.3 may skew the results a bit. 1.5 would effectively mean facing the first ball half the time, which is a nice way of forgetting about who faces first.
The other alternative is to assign opening as 2 instead of 1. So a scale from 2 to 11 without any gaps. Actually this is probably better than using 1.5 because opening is opening; there's no difference between pos 1 and 2. The captain / selectors don't 'shuffle' you from 1 to 2.
Jonty Rhodes did not bat in all positions from 1 to 11. That's Wilfred Rhodes the massively accomplished Yorkshire/English all-rounder (40 000 runs & 4 000 wickets).
This invites a time-dependent analysis. Tracking the BPI as a function of time: does a change in BPI tend to correlate with a drop in productivity? Are some batsmen sensitive to their preferred batting position while others don't care? To what extent can BPI be used to support or refute the idea that batting positions are specialised? For instance, do dedicated number 4s suffer if moved to number 3 or number 5? And if so, how badly? Do specialist openers finding batting down the order easier or harder? This might suggest a hierarchy of batting positions that are the most specialised.
Which brings up another issue: What are the overall test averages by batting position? What is the average for an opener as against first drop?
There are 2 glaring spelling mistakes here: 'pleyed' and 'baulked'. And the term most commonly used to denote a tail-ender is a 'bunny', not a 'rabbit'.
A)How about comparing positions in tests and one day matches. e.g. there are some who open only in one day matches.B) Do you think that this sort of analysis relevant in one day matches where many a time batsmen after 7 may not get a chance
Wow what an exhaustive study. What I found most interesting was that of non-openers, everybody in Test cricket history apart from one wicketkeeper and a handful of confirmed rabbits has been shuffled around in their career.
Well done on a remarkable study.
WILFRED Rhodes -- not Jonty!
"Jonty Rhodes is one of the very few who has batted in positions 1 to 11." I think it was Wilfred Rhodes of England and not Jonty Rhodes who batted in all 11 positions. Vinoo Mankad of India was another batsman who batted in all 11 positions.
Man, You rock!
Just a small point. You refer to Jonty Rhodes as having batted in every position. You should have said Wilfred Rhodes
(1) Ricky Ponting , THE TRULY GENUINE CRICKETER OF THE MODERN ERA AND WHOSE INTEGRITY SHOULD NOT BE DOUBTED, should be considered as the FOURTH UMPIRE. As per the new rules, the FOURTH UMPIRE's decision is final and will over ride any decisions taken by any other umpire on or off the field. ON-FIELD umpires can seek the assistance of RICKY PONTING even if he is not on the field.
(2) While the AUSTRALIAN TEAM is bowling, if the ball flies anywhere close to an AUSTRALIAN FIELDER(WITHIN a distance of 5 metres), the batsman is to be considered OUT irrelevant of whether the catch was taken cleanly or grassed. Any further clarification for making a decision should be seeked from the FOURTH UMPIRE. This rule is made so as to ensure that all teams play within the SPIRIT OF THE GAME.
(3) When batting, the AUSTRALIAN players will always necessarily wait for the ON-FIELD UMPIRE's decision (even if the catch goes to the FIFTH SLIP as the ball might not have touched the bat, you see!!). E
An interesting piece - what about Chris Martin from New Zealand, surely he has never batted above #11, he is one of the worst batsmen ever!
Batsmen from the days of uncovered pitches are likely to have somewhat higher deviations due to reversing of the batting order to counter dodgy pitches.
You mention Jonty Rhodes. I think you meant the great Wilfred Rhodes.
Greg: Chris Martin has batted at number 10 three times, each time because a teammate was absent hurt. His other 46 innings have been at number eleven. So he's always come in last, just not always at 11.
Perhaps this could be recalculated as categorical data with a number of specialised positions, ie. openers (1-2), top order (3-4), middle order (5-6), lower order (7-8), and tail (9-11).
Also, there is a marked difference between positions 1 and 2, as it determines who faces the first ball. It would be interesting to know which openers hogged the strike.
Greg - Chris Martin has batted three times at #10, all due to injuries to other players: against England in 2004 with Vettori injured and twice in the recent series against South Africa after injuries to Shane Bond and Craig Cumming respectively.
Nice work. Where did you get your data from?
It is a conicdence but amazing to find no Pakistani batsman or bowler in the list. This is strange as like the Indians the Pakistanis also have the propensity for frequent shuffling and make shift openers. Also strangely Pakistani cricket is replete with instances where players started their careers as bowlers and later became batsmen like Majid Khan, Asif Iqbal etc. Any comments on why Pakistanis didn't figure in the extreme cases in deviations.
I thought Matthew Hayden batted down the order in his first test vs South Africa, I recall he had a broken finger at the time
Test match bowlers on a scale of 0-1,000 as per a Computer programme amongst bowlers who have played atleast 20 test matches are:
Sydney F Barnes (1000), Murali (976), Grimmett (955), O'Relly (950), Croft (911), Kumble (911), Tayfield (909), Marshall (902), Garner (890), Richard Hadlee (881), Trueman (875), McKenzie (872), Lillee (858), Warne (855), Donald (852), Andy Roberts (851), Bill Johnston (849), Alec Bedser (845), Lance Gibbs (836), Stuart MacGill (823), Holding (815), Dilip Doshi (814), Chandrasekhar (811), Bishen Bedi (811), Robert Peel (803), Ambrose (800), Ramadhin (800), McGrath (800), Subhash Gupte (796), Kaneria (793), Arthur Mailey (793), Imran Khan (790), Alan Davidson (787), Peter Pollock (786), John Snow (782), Neil Hawke (779), Alf Valentine (777), Richard Benaud (767), Prasanna (761), Brett Lee (759), Ray Lindwall (758), Wes Hall (756), Ian Bishop (755), Max Walker (753), ETC.
Now, you can take your pick from the above list.
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Difficult to comment on the list since the basis is not known. However if it is a general ranking list, MacGill & Doshi above McGrath, Ambrose and Lindwall seems difficult to digest.
Ananth
Y Anantha Narayanan has over 35 years of IT background. Over the past 15 years, he has been concentrating on Cricket analysis and software development. He has been involved with StumpVision, Wisden, Hallmark Software and his own site www.thirdslip.com during this period.
David Barry was cricket-starved when teaching English in France, and study of cricket stats was his only way to stay sane. He is now back in Brisbane, Australia, and working towards a PhD in Physics. He once played for the worst team in the G-division of Muscat's cricket league.
Rajesh After doing an MBA in marketing and working in an advertising agency, S Rajesh decided that his skills might be put to better use by number-crunching on cricket. He hasn’t regretted that decision in the last six years, and edits the Numbers Game column on cricinfo.com every Friday.
Rajesh Kumar A product of Delhi's Shri Ram College of Commerce, Rajesh Kumar pursued cricket statistics at an early age before joining a nationalised bank, where he served for over two decades. He opted for a VRS nine years back, and hasn't regretted that decision. Apart from being a regular contributor to the Wisden Cricketers' Almanack over the years, Rajesh brought out five World Cup editions for Australia's Peter Murray. He has assisted Bill Frindall from 1980 till his death in January 2009 for the publications of various editions of The Wisden Book of Test Cricket, The Guinness Book of Cricket Facts and Feats, The Wisden Book of Cricket Records, Limited-Overs International Cricket and Playfair Cricket Annual.
Gabriel Rogers was born on the ninety-somethingth birthday of Test cricket, and his fate may well have been sealed from that moment. His day-job revolves around medical statistics, and he is interested in applying principles from the field to the analysis of cricket data. Gabriel has spent most of his life in the south-west of England, but has recently moved to Manchester; he hasn't quite worked out yet whether living in a city with a Test ground is adequate compensation for moving away from his beloved Somerset CCC.
Ric Finlay Having just taken early retirement as a Mathematics teacher in Hobart, Ric Finlay now fully devotes his time to recording cricket, both past and present, for the popular CSW cricket database, along with his colleague David Fitzgerald (www.tastats.com.au). His interest in the game is inversely proportional to his ability as a player, but he did once score a century after being dropped at 3 and running out three of his team-mates. His first memory of international cricket is the 1962-63 MCC tour of Australia, described as one of the most boring ever. Totally fascinated, he was instantly hooked, and has never looked back. Author of three books on cricket of a historical nature, he has provided statistics and scored for radio and television cricket coverage since 1983.